特朗普在周二晚与福克斯新闻的布雷特-拜尔有如下的问答。
1.关于特朗普为什么没有按联邦司法部要求把机密文件及时交还。
布雷特-拜尔:"你为什么会有这种非常敏感的国家安全防御文件,比如打击伊朗的战争计划?"
特朗普:"像其他每一位总统一样,我把东西拿出来,在我的情况下,我把它拿出来的时候相当匆忙,但人们把它收拾好,我们就离开了。我有衣服在里面。我有各种各样的个人物品,它们是很多很多的东西"。“司法部长威廉-巴尔的问题,因为他没有勇气去处理这么多不同的事情。他是个懦夫"。
布雷特-拜尔:"你然后告诉这位助手,告诉你的律师说你已经完全遵守了传票,而你却没有遵守。"你告诉这位助手把文件搬到其他地方。
特朗普:"但是,在我送箱子过去之前,我必须把我所有的东西拿出来。这些箱子里夹杂着各种各样的东西,高尔夫衫、衣服、裤子、鞋子。有很多东西。"
布雷特-拜尔:"伊朗的战争计划?"
特朗普:"据我所知没有,但是,据我所知没有,"
布雷特-拜尔:起诉书引用了一段录音,其中你被录下 "说这份文件是秘密的,还说你在担任总统时可以解密它,但是--引用--'现在我不能了。你知道,这仍然是秘密的,高度机密的"。"而起诉书引用了录音和房间里的人的证词,说你那天给那里的人看了它。所以,你在这个--录音带上说。"
特朗普,"我没有,""没有文件。那是大量的文件和其他一切都在谈论伊朗和其他事情。"
布雷特-拜尔:"那为什么不直接把它们交出来?"
特朗普:"因为我有箱子。我想翻翻这些箱子,把我所有的私人物品拿出来。我还不想把这些交给NARA。而且我非常忙,你也是看到了。"
2. 关于为什么特朗普选的人最后都背叛了他
布雷特-拜尔:"你的副总统迈克-彭斯正在与你竞选,你的驻联合国大使尼基-海利,她在反对你。你的前国务卿迈克-蓬佩奥说他不支持你,你提到国家安全顾问约翰-博尔顿。他不支持你。你提到司法部长比尔-巴尔。说你不应该再当总统。称你是'完美的自恋者'和'麻烦的人'。你最近称巴尔为'没有胆量的猪',""你的第二任国防部长不支持你。说你不负责任。本周,你称你的白宫幕僚长约翰-凯利'软弱无能','生来就有一个很小的脑袋'。你称你的白宫代理幕僚长米克-马尔瓦尼是'天生的失败者',”"那么,你当初为什么要雇用他们所有人?"
特朗普:"这倒是真的。好吧,我的意思是,你刚刚念了一份名单。但别忘了,你说的每一个人,我有10个爱我们的人,""10个对1个,他们都很出色...... 我们有一个伟大的经济。我们有了不起的人在负责经济。""我们在军队里有惊人的人。我不是米利的粉丝,我也不是某些电视人的粉丝。但我打掉了ISIS,我打败了ISIS。他们说,马蒂斯,这将需要三年时间,我不认为我们能做到。我在四个星期内就做到了。"
3.关于是否参加第一场共和党初选辩论
特朗普:"我喜欢辩论,我一点也不介意,但当你领先40个百分点时......我为什么要让'阿达'-哈钦森--"(特朗普解释他为什么把前阿肯色州州长阿萨-哈钦森称为 "阿达"。因为他是 "软弱 "和 "无效 "的)。"我为什么要让这些人对我进行抨击?" "克里斯蒂好像只有百分之一或更少,尼基-海利只有百分之二。尼基-海利还没有流行起来,因为大家都知道她被高度高估了。我之所以任命海莉担任美国驻联合国大使,只是因为想让南卡罗来纳州副州长亨利-麦克马斯特在海莉不在时成为南卡罗来纳州州长“。
4.关于特朗普是否认为Covid疫苗起了作用
布雷特-拜尔:你认为疫苗有用吗?
特朗普:这是个有趣的问题。
我有一个民主党的朋友,他非常聪明--希望他投票给我--但他非常聪明。他说,'我不能理解关于你的一件事。你谈到了击败ISIS,谈到了税收,谈到了监管,谈到了一切,但我从未听到你谈到你在疫苗方面所做的不可思议的贡献’。‘你可能在世界范围内,在整个世界范围内,拯救了一亿人,而你从来没有谈论过它,’
因为你知道,我在9个月内完成了疫苗,而这本来需要5到12年的时间。我揍了他们的屁股,好吗?... 我说,'我真的不想谈这个问题'。因为作为一个共和党人,这不是一个很好的话题,因为,出于某种原因,还是不谈。"
布雷特-拜尔:"出于某种原因?"
特朗普:"是的,出于某种原因,因为人们喜欢疫苗,人们讨厌疫苗,但保守派不是--顺便说一下,我理解这两方面的情况。我非常理解这两方面。""我没有做的是强制。强制和疫苗不能一起"。"但是有很多人喜欢这些疫苗。我的意思是,确实有。他们恰好是民主党人多于共和党人。""有的人说我拯救了一亿人的生命。我甚至谈都不谈这个。"
5.关于佛罗里达州长德桑提斯
特朗普:"当年是我让他能够当选是我。所以,当他说: 是的,我会参选总统,我认为他非常不忠诚,"
"我是个大忠臣。你知道,有些人说,就是在福克斯这里的一些人告诉我,'先生,不要担心忠诚度问题。忠诚在政治上并不意味着什么'。我说,对我来说,它是非常重要的。是我让那个人当选的。当时他来见我,让我们这么说,他当时是哭着,因为他已经死了,要退出竞选了。" "这家伙当时在政治上已经死了。现在他说,我要和一个让我当选的人一起竞选?我当时不需要那样支持他的,因为我承受了很多压力,""我有很多朋友都站在另一边。我为此承受了很大的压力。这不是那么容易做到的。""他可能很快就会像石头一样掉到第三或第四位,到那时他就不会再关注他了,因为我喜欢和第二名战斗"。
“其他州长对疫情处理得更好,也保持了他们州的开放,德桑蒂斯只是比其他州长有更好的公关"。
Earlier in the interview with Mr. Baier, Mr. Trump appeared to concede that even after the Justice Department issued a subpoena last year for all classified documents in his possession, he delayed complying with it in order to separate any personal records that might have been among them.
Baier put Trump on the spot about attacks he’s faced from his own Cabinet members and questions about how he’d even staff the White House if he’s elected.
Avideo of Fox News anchor Bret Baier listing the former Donald Trump allies who have fallen out with the former president has gone viral on Twitter.
“I like to debate,” Trump told Fox News’s Bret Baier in an interview that aired Tuesday evening. “I don’t mind it at all, but when you’re 40 points up … why would I let ‘Ada’ Hutchinson—” Trump said, before going off on a tangent to explain why he calls former Arkansas governor Asa Hutchinson “Ada.” His explanation was that he is “weak” and “ineffective.”
“Christie is like at one percent or less, Nikki Haley is at 2 percent. She hasn’t caught on because everyone knows she’s highly overrated,” he said. He claimed he appointed Haley to serve as U.S. ambassador to the U.N. only because he wanted South Carolina Lieutenant Governor Henry McMaster to become governor of South Carolina in Haley’s absence.
Trump also spent significant time throughout the interview blasting DeSantis, whom he said he has nicknamed “DeSanctimonious” because he is “very disloyal.”
He suggested DeSantis “loved” Dr. Anthony Fauci and defended his own decision to listen to Fauci at the time by saying, “You’re not actually allowed to fire him — but I wouldn’t usually let that get in my way.”
However, DeSantis waited longer than many other states to even declare a stay-at-home order, which he officially issued on April 1, 2020. By contrast, California, the first state to issue a stay-at-home order, did so on March 19. Only a handful of states, with more rural populations, never issued such an order, including Arkansas, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.
By April 20, DeSantis had already appointed a “Re-Open Florida Task Force,” which he tasked with quickly forming a plan to reopen the state. The stay-at-home order expired in early May, and by late September, DeSantis had lifted all restrictions on restaurants and businesses.
Trump, meanwhile, was questioning Georgia governor Brian Kemp’s decision to reopen certain facilities in the Peach State on April 22.
The former president defended his own leadership during Covid-19 and suggested the disease spread from China because of “incompetence” in the Chinese government.
Former President Donald Trump refused to say whether the COVID-19 vaccine works and explained that he doesn’t like to tout his administration’s work on the vaccine because “as a Republican, it’s not a great thing to talk about.”
During an interview with Fox News host Bret Baier that aired Tuesday, Trump, 77, was asked, “In your mind, did the COVID vaccine work?”
The former president dodged the question, instead praising his administration’s efforts at promoting Regeneron’s antibody treatment for COVID and then claiming to have a “Democrat friend who’s very smart” who has questioned why he doesn’t talk more about his work rolling out COVID vaccines.
“You may have saved in the world, throughout the world, 100 million people, and you never talk about it,” Trump recalled his friend telling him.
“I said: ‘I really don’t want to talk about it, because, as a Republican, it’s not a great thing to talk about, because, for some reason, it’s just not.’” the former president told Baier.
When pressed on the reason he believes it is uncouth for Republicans to talk about vaccines, Trump blamed it on the politically charged nature of the debate surrounding COVID shots.
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Trump told Fox News host Bret Baier that “as a Republican, it’s not a great thing to talk about” vaccines.
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“Yes, for some reason, because people love the vaccines, and people hate the vaccines, but conservatives aren’t – and I understand both sides of it, by the way. I understand both sides very well,” Trump explained.
“What I didn’t do is the mandates. The mandates and the vaccines don’t go,” Trump claimed.
Baier noted that under his administration the Pentagon mandated COVID vaccines for members of the armed forces, a fact-check Trump did not acknowledge.
“But you have a lot of people that love the vaccines. I mean, you do. They happen to be more Democrat than they are Republican,” the 2024 GOP presidential primary front-runner said.
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Trump accused Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis of being “disloyal” by running for president against him.
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“There are people that say I saved 100 million lives. I don’t even talk about it,” Trump bragged.
During his sit down with Baier, Trump also suggested that his attacks against his top 2024 opponent, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, are personal and the result of disloyalty on the part of the Sunshine State governor.
“I got him elected. And I thought he was very disloyal when he said: Yes, I’d run,” Trump said when asked about why he refers to the Florida governor as “Ron DeSanctimonious.”
When pressed on the reason he believes it is uncouth for Republicans to talk about vaccines, Trump blamed it on the politically charged nature of the debate surrounding COVID shots.
When pressed on the reason he believes it is uncouth for Republicans to talk about vaccines, Trump blamed it on the politically charged nature of the debate surrounding COVID shots.
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“I’m a big loyalist,” Trump continued. “You know, some people say, some people right here in this room have told me, ‘sir, don’t worry about loyalty. Loyalty doesn’t mean anything in politics.’ I said, to me, it does. I got the guy elected. He came to see me, let’s say weeping, because he was dead. He was getting out of the race.”
“But this guy was dead politically. And for him to then say, I’m going to run against a guy that got me into office? And I didn’t need that, because I took a lot of heat,” Trump said of his endorsement of DeSantis for governor in 2017.
“I had a lot of friends that were on the other side of that one. I took big heat on that. It’s not that easy to do.”
“I’m a big loyalist,” Trump continued. “You know, some people say, some people right here in this room have told me, ‘sir, don’t worry about loyalty. Loyalty doesn’t mean anything in politics.’ I said, to me, it does. I got the guy elected. He came to see me, let’s say weeping, because he was dead. He was getting out of the race.”
“But this guy was dead politically. And for him to then say, I’m going to run against a guy that got me into office? And I didn’t need that, because I took a lot of heat,” Trump said of his endorsement of DeSantis for governor in 2017.
“I had a lot of friends that were on the other side of that one. I took big heat on that. It’s not that easy to do.”